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False start |
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Salutations and flattery to the investor audience |
a3
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Dummy assistants of today |
a4
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Computer world nightmare |
a5
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Let's start over, let's clean the slate |
a6
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Complexity and unreliability of current operating systems |
a7
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Simplicity for whom : the idiot or power beginner ? |
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Designing imaginary constructs, not string based systems |
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The zigzag virtual machine for new users |
a10
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Conclusion |
a11
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Next speaker announce |
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speaker=Ted Nelson
date=Thursday August 28th
place=Nottingham, UK
event=Panel "The Next Big Thing, Inc." at Hypertext'03 |
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...my brain serving correctly, our next speaker is Ted Nelson |
a225
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Ladies and gentlemen, |
a226
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I'm very honoured to appear here. |
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??? the time I'm on the light. |
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I'm very honoured to appear, |
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to have a chance to talk to this |
a230
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distinguished group of investment bankers, |
a231
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and I know how you must feel |
a232
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after the dot.com crash. |
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The ones who made, |
a234
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who made out well |
a235
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are not here today |
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and of course, |
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the ones who lost everything |
a238
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aren't either. |
a239
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So you would be a group of the astute, |
a240
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the far seing |
a241
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who are able to understand |
a242
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the concepts |
a243
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I want to put before you. |
a244
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A lot of talk, |
a245
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there was a lot of tall talk, |
a246
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in the late 90's |
a247
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as the world's got bigger and bigger. |
a248
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You heard (of?) all these wonderful tools |
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that were gonna help people |
a250
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understand computers. |
a251
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So we had talking paperclips. |
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For those to whom |
a253
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the world wide web was too complicated |
a254
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we had the Bonzi Buddy, |
a255
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a gorilla, |
a256
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a purple gorilla who would help you through |
a257
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and stay on your browser. |
a258
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And we have |
a259
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the wonderful website askjeeves.com |
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which got I believe ten million |
a261
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in first stage capital. |
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Jeeves says |
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as you got on the front page, |
a264
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"ask me anything I know everything", |
a265
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said "what is the population of Bulgaria ?". |
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"I know this about Bulgaria: |
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Bulgaria is a country". |
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And then a little list |
a269
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distracts you from the fact |
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that it paid no attention to your question. |
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So we are seing, |
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we have seen |
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simultanously the dumb down of concepts |
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being offered to consumers, |
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and the escalation of idiocy |
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in the concepts being presented |
a277
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to the likes of you. |
a278
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So let's cut through this. |
a279
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We have a computer world now |
a280
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which has become a nightmare honky-tonk prison, |
a281
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where fanfares and, |
a282
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and pretty flashing lights |
a283
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distract you from the fact |
a284
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that everything is progressively |
a285
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more complicated, |
a286
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and you're being spied on on every site, |
a287
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and nothing is available anymore, |
a288
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and you have to sign up for everything. |
a289
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I say : let's start over, |
a290
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let's start over, |
a291
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let's clean the slate. |
a292
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Are you users of Windows ? |
a293
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How are you doing on your backups ? |
a294
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Have you had the machine halt |
a295
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in the middle of backups by any chance ? |
a296
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Have you lost any data ? |
a297
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Have things disappeared |
a298
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into strange parts |
a299
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of your disk ? |
a300
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And have you, have you had |
a301
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to reinstall the operating system |
a302
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and loose track of all your settings ? |
a303
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Or are you a user of the Macintosh ? |
a304
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Once so simple and unreliable. |
a305
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Now rock solid and uncomprehensible ! |
a306
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So the beginning user |
a307
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puts something on the desktop, |
a308
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"ok, now I file it inside, op", |
a309
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and gets the full unix directory. |
a310
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Right |
a311
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How about Linux? |
a312
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Oh that's great! |
a313
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We have this wonderful command line interface |
a314
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or we have the, |
a315
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the gnome thing |
a316
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with really nice |
a317
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incomprehensible widgets |
a318
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that were designed as a |
a319
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dumbdown of the command line interface |
a320
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as distinct from. |
a321
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...clarity |
a322
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Everything is designed |
a323
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either for people who |
a324
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need to know too much, |
a325
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or |
a326
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for an imaginary stupid person. |
a327
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So many people want design for |
a328
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"the man in the street", |
a329
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well, the man in the street |
a330
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is lying on his back |
a331
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with the bottle of a |
a332
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weld?? Irish broom. |
a333
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We need to design |
a334
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for the intelligent |
a335
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but clueless beginner; |
a336
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and shall we say |
a337
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"the power beginner". |
a338
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We want to create a new computer world, |
a339
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where |
a340
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things are no harder |
a341
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than they need to be, |
a342
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and that's so difficult, |
a343
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because the issue was never |
a344
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electronics, |
a345
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and was never |
a346
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the inners of |
a347
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complex operating systems, |
a348
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the issue was always |
a349
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(how much have I got) |
a350
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You got two minutes |
a351
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the issue was always |
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the design |
a353
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of imaginary constructs. |
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You see, |
a355
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science is supposed to be |
a356
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about universals, |
a357
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and yet computer science, I believe, |
a358
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has become sidetracked |
a359
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into the ramifications of tradition, |
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because |
a361
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it's all about |
a362
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computer languages |
a363
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which are written |
a364
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as long strings. |
a365
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So, |
a366
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you write a program as a long string, |
a367
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and then you do string matching against the various variables |
a368
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and the opcodes and so on, |
a369
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and then that thing compiles |
a370
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an executable. |
a371
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So people go all off |
a372
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into the |
a373
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the consequences |
a374
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of string parsing and syntax, |
a375
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but the real issue is the complex executable, |
a376
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making it understandable, |
a377
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because computer languages |
a378
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are about |
a379
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the human mind's grasp |
a380
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for the task to be done, |
a381
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and maintaining it |
a382
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through iterations |
a383
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as you improve the program. |
a384
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Ok, so the design, |
a385
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so computer science has always been I believe |
a386
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about |
a387
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the design of imaginary constructs |
a388
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and their ramifications. |
a389
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But everybody thinks it's about reality, |
a390
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and that's the mistake. |
a391
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It's much more |
a392
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like game design. |
a393
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So the |
a394
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game I am presenting to you, |
a395
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the package let us say, |
a396
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the zigzag virtual machine, |
a397
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virtual interactive machine, |
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would be a cross platform |
a399
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new user system. |
a400
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The power beginner |
a401
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can look at all the cells |
a402
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and orthogonal connections, |
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the |
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relaxed beginner |
a405
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can merely use the functions |
a406
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"add relative", |
a407
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"add appointment", |
a408
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"deliver appointment", |
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"share appointment" |
a410
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and making these, |
a411
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and adding these |
a412
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within the language of the system |
a413
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so there's a unified package |
a414
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you do not have to walk outside, |
a415
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and it would be the same |
a416
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running under linux, |
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and running under the macintosh, |
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and running |
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under windows, |
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by eschewing |
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the temptations |
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of each of these environments |
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and rather |
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creating a hermetically clean |
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internal world |
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we can start over. |
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So I offer to you |
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a simple new beginning, |
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a fresh start, |
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a sunny morning |
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after the hangover |
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nightmare |
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we have built today. |
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name=Talking Paperclip
URL=http://entries.the5k.org/1126/
description=Clippy is paperclip eager to help you using Microsoft Office
image=http://www.hazza316.co.uk/mrt/mrtvclippit/images/Clippit.gif
altURL=http://www.hazza316.co.uk/mrt/mrtvclippit/TvCstart.htm |
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name=Bonzi Buddy
URL=http://www.bonzi.com/bonzibuddy/bonzibuddyfreehom.asp
description=Bonzi is a purple gorilla eager to help you surf the web
image=http://images.bonzi.com/images/gorillatalk.gif |
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name=AskJeeves
URL=http://www.ask.com/
description=Jeeves is a majordom eager to answer any of your questions
image=http://sp.ask.com/i/j/aj7/jeeves_btm.gif |
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name=Microsoft Windows
description=The most used operating system
URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows |
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name=Mac OS X
description=The most feline operating system
URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X |
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name=Linux
description=The most free operating system
URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux |
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Various hits near microphones |
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Squeaking |
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Footsteps |
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Caugh |
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Shock |
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Cup? |
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Caughs |
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squeaking |
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name=Peter J. Nürnberg
URL=http://www.cs.aue.auc.dk/~pnuern/ |
a493
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name=Peter Murray Rust
URL=http://www.ch.cam.ac.uk/CUCL/staff/pm.html |
a494
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name=Cathy Marshall
URL=http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/~marshall/ |
a495
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name=Ted Nelson (flashing version)
URL=http://xanadu.com.au/ted/ |
a496
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name=Paul De bra
URL=http://www.win.tue.nl/~debra/ |
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name=Wendy Hall
URL=http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~wh/ |